Uncharted Paths

The Heart-Led Journey: Jill Oakes Farmar’s Path from Celebrated Athlete to Empowered Leader

Episode Summary

Today, we have an extraordinary guest—Jill Oakes Farmar, a former professional soccer player turned life coach, yoga teacher, and leader. As a devoted mom of two daughters, a loving wife, and one of five sisters in a family of six siblings, Jill is deeply committed to peace, self-actualization, and celebrating womanhood. In this episode, Jill takes us on her challenging yet fulfilling journey from a celebrated soccer player to an empowered mother, yoga teacher, and life coach. She delves into the intrinsic value of staying true to herself, even if it means taking the road less traveled that others might not understand. Jill shares her transition from seeking external validation and accolades to finding internal gratification and alignment. Join us for an inspiring conversation with Jill as she explores the profound shift from the soccer field to a life dedicated to empowerment, self-discovery, and the beauty of living life authentically.

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Episode Transcription

[00:00:00] Welcome to Uncharted Paths. The podcast that dives deep into the journeys of courageous individuals who listen to their inner wisdom and forge paths of authentic expression. In a world where conventional success often overshadows personal passion, we illuminate those who have dared to venture off the beaten track.

In Season One, we're uncovering the untold stories of unique alumni from Harvard-Westlake School. You may recognize names like astronaut Sally Ride, the former mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti, and actors Jake and Maggie Gyllenhaal, but now we're shining a light on the hidden gems. I'm Lindsey, and I'm Kristin.

Join us as we explore the stories of these remarkable individuals, share their triumphs and challenges, and uncover the lessons that can inspire possibility for all, especially today's generation. It's time to follow your heart and chart your own path. Welcome to Uncharted [00:01:00] Paths.

Today we have an extraordinary guest, Jill Oakes Farmar, a former professional soccer player turned life coach, yoga teacher, and leader. As a devoted mom of two daughters, a loving wife, and one of five sisters in a family of six siblings, Jill is deeply committed to peace, self actualization, and celebrating womanhood.

In this episode, Jill takes us on her challenging yet fulfilling journey from a celebrated soccer player to an empowered mother, yoga teacher and life coach. She delves into the intrinsic value of staying true to yourself, even if it means taking the road less traveled that others might not understand.

Jill shares her transition from seeking external validation and accolades to finding internal gratification and alignment. Join us for an inspiring conversation with Jill as she explores the profound shift from the soccer field to a life dedicated to empowerment, self discovery, and the beauty [00:02:00] of living life authentically. 

Jill, thank you so much for being here with us today. We're so grateful to have you. 

Thank you for having me. 

 What led you to say 'yes' to being here today? 

Aside from loving you and being so excited to reconnect with you after our dancing years, I was really moved by what you guys are doing to spread this beautiful message of listening to your heart and charting your own path in life.

I think that's something that we could really use a lot more of just celebrating in this world. I love having deep, meaningful conversations. The realness, the vulnerability lights me up. So, I'm so excited to share that with you. Being with you, in this mission to make a difference, I'm deeply honored.

And when we said 'uncharted,' what did that mean to you? 

The vision that comes through is the wild. I think that's the word.

It just feels wild and adventurous and full of possibilities and unknown. As opposed to seeing a path, it's make your path. [00:03:00] I got a machete, right? Just machete your way through. 

Talk to us a little bit about your journey at Harvard-Westlake. What aspects felt like checking the box, 'charted,' versus heart-led or 'uncharted?' 

I came to Harvard-Westlake in tenth grade. I went to public schools my whole life and found out a lot of people on my club soccer team were all applying. 

I didn't really know what this was about, but it was like, 'Oh wow, this sounds like an incredible opportunity.' I was talking to my mom and I was like, ' Should we do it?' I wasn't getting pushed, but it felt like one of those moments where it fell in my lap, and I just said, 'Yes, I'll go and I'll take the tests' or whatever it took to get in.

I remember getting accepted, and many of my teammates were not accepted. I felt guilt, like I wasn't even the one that asked for this. But again, just said 'yes' to the opportunity, you know, like receive the blessings. 

Coming here, I was heart-led to have this beautiful opportunity, knowing that I was going to be doing what I loved, which was [00:04:00] playing soccer. That was my whole world. That was what I love to do. 

It was definitely new territory. It was very different than public schools in an extraordinary way. It has all the collegiate things and the resources that I didn't even know existed. 

I feel like 'checking the boxes' was our curriculum, right? They tell you what you're supposed to take, what requirements you're meant to fill. That wasn't lighting me up, but it was a requirement. There was a lot of that in my life where I was just told what the next step is, and a lot of that led to beautiful moments.

And then a lot of it was just like, 'Why am I doing this?' 

And do you feel like soccer was that main part of you or were there other parts that felt strong in your identity? 

It was the dance piece, which is how we found each other. There was a certain point in my teenage years. I always loved to dance. I always loved to move. I always loved to express. 

I was not empowered in my voice. I feel like that's been a theme throughout my life. I'm always discovering deeper [00:05:00] levels of self-expression vocally, but my body was my voice. I love dance. I love sports. And I love physicality.

Had I not discovered soccer, my soul probably would have loved to go down the professional dancer route. I was able to figure out a way to do both while we were here. The dance department was able to make it work where they knew that I had a game.

And then, in my junior and senior year, I tried out for the cheerleading team, and they were thankfully very accommodating, too, to understand that I was there for the football season to cheer and then was able to still play soccer in the winter season, which I felt deeply grateful for.

I feel like I was able to have these heart-led 'yeses.' 

That transition from Harvard-Westlake into college, what did that look like for you? Were there 'heart-led' choices and 'should' choices? And how did you navigate that?

Choosing a college was [00:06:00] a very interesting process. I found myself in a position where I had my choice of all these colleges through soccer. Incredible blessing. I'll never forget. I went on a what is it called? An official visit, recruiting, recruiting trip to Stanford.

My grandfather went to Stanford. He didn't say anything, but when we went on the visit, he came, and he wore his red jacket. I could feel how proud he was that his daughter had this opportunity to get a full ride scholarship to Stanford.

And it was an amazing campus to walk through. I was there and I was like, 'This is gorgeous.' And, at the time, I was feeling pressure from the coach to make a decision soon.

There was an opportunity for me to say 'yes' or 'no,' and I actually said, 'I'm not ready.' So, they moved on to their next recruits, which was a big deal for me, because I was feeling the pressure to say 'yes' because of my grandpa being so proud of me and that sort of thing. 

When I chose to go to UCLA, I committed at the end of my visit.

What was the feeling you had at UCLA that was different than, say, what you were [00:07:00] feeling at Stanford? 

I had already seen all of my top choices. It really, ultimately, was just a feeling. I didn't think to myself, 'box, checks,' you know, like anything like that.

What put me over the edge was that connection I felt with the coach there. 

I remember standing across from my coach, and I remember going, 'I want to go to UCLA.' It was so shaky in my chest. And so again, it was a heart-led choice.

Because in my mind, I thought UCLA was so familiar. The picture that I had in my mind of going to college was going away, getting on an airplane, at least driving somewhere that's like an hour away, but I'm like, 'UCLA feels like it's right there'. It didn't feel as exotic, I suppose.

Are you trying to tell us that if you don't go to Stanford, you're okay? 

I said 'no' to Stanford. I said 'no' to a full ride to Stanford.  This is the part they didn't tell you. You get to say 'no.' 

And it worked out okay.

It totally did. It totally [00:08:00] did.

Soccer was your place of honoring your heart but also major celebration and recognition. Were there any times in soccer where you felt rejected or felt like you failed, and how did you overcome it? 

My freshman year at UCLA, I had a devastating knee injury.

I tore my PCL, which was devastating. You hear about ACLs all the time, but PCLs were even more rare. The protocol for recovery was less sophisticated. And, so, I got an experimental surgery and had a very challenging recovery. 

That was very hard, because the knee was never quite the same. And so, my sophomore year, was, like, I was able to get back out on the field but wasn't in my tip top shape. I was able to come back and still perform well enough. It just always was an issue.

That was an intense, in a way, a flavor of failure, just because I wasn't able to play for so many months. So, that was a very depressive time. Freshman year, again, I had wonderful people around me to support me, but I remember being in my [00:09:00] lowest state, in my dorm room, just kind of like, 'I don't want to go to class.' My usual purpose was not there. It was a very challenging time.

Then, when I graduated from UCLA, the Women's Professional League was not out, and so everyone needed to figure out what they were gonna do in the interim of this like waiting room. I was exploring where I would go, and I was considering a team in Sweden.

So, I went out there for a try out, I guess, and they decided not to accept me. That was very new for me. I knew that I wasn't in my best shape, but I guess I just never thought someone was going to say 'no.' So, that was my first real failure in soccer. Failure doesn't taste very good, does it?

But, in hindsight, that feeling of rejection and that failure redirected me, for sure, as life and the universe does. It always redirects you. I ended up going to Canada and played in Vancouver, which is an extraordinary [00:10:00] experience. 

The way you talk about failure as a redirection, would it be fair to say, what if failure is just a locked door that's trying to get you to go to the open door? 

Totally. Have you ever played that game where you're blindfolded and somebody has to tell you like, 'Turn left, turn right?' It just kind of feels like going through life a little blind and someone's going, 'This way,' and if you just follow their lead and trust, it just feels like a nudge. It just feels like, 'Oh, turn that degree to the left or right.' 

What did you discover about yourself when soccer was taken away? 

Surrender was an incredible necessity. It was something you couldn't control. 'This is what has happened. This is the circumstance.' 

Just a trust, a surrender of like, 'Okay, well, we're going to go to rehab, and this is what the next step forward is, and it will lead me to wherever I'm meant to go.' 

Because I always loved dance, I remember at a certain point in high school, when things got so serious with soccer, I [00:11:00] do remember always telling myself, 'I'm more than just a soccer player,' which I think has really served me well through these periods of failure, rejection, that sort of thing.

So, that was just a belief that because I had so much passion for dance, I was able to at least have some level of perspective that, 'This isn't all I am,' but having it taken away without my permission was different. 

There's an image coming through of a student looking in the mirror at what they're most known for, whether it's being a scholar or a dancer or an athlete and saying, 'I am more than that.' 

Yes. 

And reminding ourselves that we are more than the thing we're best at. 

Yes. Always. No matter what it is, you're always more than that. Mother, wife, daughter, whatever label you could possibly put, it can never, ever be encompassed in the magnitude of your beingness. 

I just see taking off each coat. 

Totally. 

The courage to take off the layers of what you think you are to know you're enough without them. To come back to [00:12:00] the, 'I am enough without the layers of coats that define who I thought I was.' 

Or updating your coat. 

Trying things on. 

Some people are frozen in indecision, because they don't want to make the wrong choice. Just make a choice. You have the power and authority to make another choice. When we give permission to ourselves, then we're able to see other people in their permission and freedom to do the same, which would make relationships so much more harmonious, right?

Were you receiving a lot of external validation or was there something in you that was more like, 'I'm just doing this' or was it a combination of both?

Oh, I definitely got an external validation ever since I kicked my first soccer ball at eight years old. I was naturally great at it. They just told me, 'Okay, you're great. You're going to make the All-Star team.' 'Okay, then you're going to make the State team and then the Regional team.'

People kept telling me what was next. And I liked it. I like that people validated what I did. They celebrated what I did. I got all this [00:13:00] positive attention around it. So, that felt really, really good. 

There was a sense of myself knowing that like, 'Oh, I'm great at something. I'm part of something.' There's a belonging. Always being part of a team was always really wonderful. 

So, when it was taken away, and I'm just reflecting on it now, when I eventually stepped away for good, for good, the first couple years didn't admit that I was officially done. Because I got pregnant in 2009, had my first baby in 2010, and for a couple years, people would ask, 'Oh, you coming back?' And I saw the look in their eyes of like, 'We love seeing you play.' They loved watching me play soccer. 

Just to preface this, too, my family comes from very modest means. So, there were many angels who came through and paid for me to go to some tournament or to pay the funds for the club coaches. Some people covered it for me. 

It was like people saw my prowess and wanted to support it, and I felt all of them with me as I kept going. So, when I came to this [00:14:00] juncture of maybe not playing, I think I wanted to still give them hope. I think there was a part of me, too, that wanted the excitement from them to keep going.

Like, 'Oh, so when are you coming back?' 'I don't know. We'll see.'

 What has been the process for you or the feeling of almost shedding the identity of 'I'm a soccer player'?

My vision, always, was to get to the Olympics. That was my charted path, because everything was laid out in front of me. It was State team, National team, college, and then it was just a World Cup, and the Olympics was all that was left.

And there was this one specific Olympics. I don't know if it was 2012 or 2014. Watching our women's team win the Olympic gold medal, and the thought that ran through my mind was, 'I'm supposed to be there.' And I remember having a very cleansing, deep cry, I call it 'my little pity party' that I had on the couch by myself. 

I think that is a beautiful part of the process. Allow yourself to grieve what you thought was going to [00:15:00] happen and not make that wrong. Let yourself have a moment with this part of you that thought it was going to go a different way and hold yourself to that moment. And then you just keep going.

I feel like there's a piece of me that still is a soccer player. 

I still feel a deep love and connection to the game. I didn't have to entirely let that part go. Just because I'm not lacing up and like going out there anymore, there's still like a piece of me that gets to still enjoy the game and celebrate that. 

Soccer was one of the forums that developed my character, developed my skills, developed my perspective, and those skills, perspective, everything can be applied in other areas of your life. Every time you have an experience, you're building new skills and perspective and wisdom, and then you just keep expanding. So, it's not necessarily a loss, but just it's building you in a different way.

 This is a tough question, but was having a child charted or uncharted? 

It was uncharted. Well, I [00:16:00] knew I was going to have a child at some point, but at that moment, that was not charted.

Okay. So, I played my final season with the Chicago Red Stars. It was the first inaugural season of the WPS, the Women's Professional Soccer League. 

You made history. 

Yeah, I was the number two recruit. It was like a big deal. 

And then, in the off-season, the heart-led part was that I got my yoga teacher certification, because I knew that that was always what I wanted to do. But I was going to come back to the next season, and then I got pregnant.

That was a really interesting curveball. But at the same time, I had been having immense knee issues, so I felt like it was more nudging of the universe, just going, 'This way now,' and it was really hard to come to clarity of what exactly was happening. In that moment, like, 'This wasn't supposed to happen.'

The 'supposed to' piece is the charted part, right? That was very challenging, but, what I did was return to my heart, return to my body, [00:17:00] return to the knowing of, 'Oh, I want this child.' Once I gave myself permission to want what I wanted, I was just in it, and it was so much freedom. 

Emma Hayes, who's actually becoming the next national team coach for the Olympics this year, she was my Chicago Red Stars coach. I remember telling my coach, 'I'm pregnant,' and saying those words was so scary. And she was happy for me. And then, Dave, who coached here with me. I remember, he was one of the first soccer people that I told, and he was so happy for me. Gave me a big hug. Really beautiful souls. I need to go call them after this. 

Like, 'You have no idea the impact you had.' 

‘You helped open my heart and help me go down this path.' 

Those two individuals played a big role in just feeling like 'Okay, I'm not outcasted. I'm not rejected. I'm not disappointing.' You know, because this 'woman thing' of getting pregnant, it seemed to be in society was such a disappointment, like, 'Oh, she could have been so great.'

I was like, 'Oh, [00:18:00] am I going to be that disappointment story?' Because it was my charted path ever since my first soccer ball kick. I was great at this. That was very poignant, and I'm very grateful for those individuals. 

So that's something I would say, too, for individuals who are looking for support in following their heart is surrounding yourself with people who support heart-led choices. 

What was the internal conversation of ' I'm enough, and I'm making this choice'? 

I don't think the 'I am enough' piece was articulated in words in my mind, but it was for sure felt in my body. 

I just remember a constriction in my body, which felt like the resistance, right? 

It felt like an embodied tightness and freezing. It was just a knowing, I suppose. It was just the knowing of, 'Oh, I want this,' and I relaxed.

I gave myself permission. I allowed myself to want it and have it. 

And how has that journey into motherhood been? 

Oh, girl. That opened up the whole [00:19:00] floodgate of what was then to become my next rebirth and transformation was going down that path of what I call the ‘Divine Feminine Awakening’ that I had through pregnancy and childbirth.

The process for me was beautiful in the way that the universe had it all lined up, because I had gotten my yoga teacher training just intuitively. There's no coincidences, but I just so happened to get my yoga teacher certification. My now husband, then boyfriend at the time, we got engaged. A month later, we found out we were pregnant.

I just followed the next 'yes.' It just felt like the universe had given me a gentle, 'You're no longer going to play soccer. You're going to be a yoga teacher, a mother, and you're going to get married.' It was a beautiful transition. 

It felt smooth. I also was in community within my yoga studio. I kept showing up and being held, and it was a very holistic space.

It was very like tribal, and they were just like [00:20:00] there with and for me. I remember, after having the baby, I would come back and bring the baby into class and be teaching classes with the baby. Such a family. I think that also really helped the transition, being surrounded by people who are supporting your choices.

This communal piece that is so important. I had mommy mentors. My parents were so wonderfully supportive. My mom had six kids, so she was all about celebrating motherhood.

I loved being pregnant. I had a very smooth pregnancy. I felt the most powerful and in awe of what my body was doing. And then, when I had the baby, we had this extraordinary home birth. My body just like exploded.

I like to say that I used to be all like, 'Girl power! We can do anything boys can do. We have muscles too. We can compete. We can get dirty.' And then, once I had the baby, I was like, 'We are in a league of our own.' There's no comparing here. My reverence for womanhood just went through the roof. That led me down the [00:21:00] path of continuing to commit to motherhood, and the motherhood lessons continue to unravel more feminine wisdom. 

It feels like a really organic journey, and not smooth necessarily, but there's a rhythm and a sense of flow. 

Thank you. I think that has served me very well to move in that way where it has a lot of that surrender piece. I had always felt like I absorbed messages from society that all these qualities that were very feminine qualities were weak or bad, like being soft, intuitive, emotional.

But ultimately, those have been the keys to having extraordinary peace in the moments that could have been stressful. Letting yourself flow through chapters that the strife could have lasted longer, you know? 

Did you find resistance to making that choice in honor of your body?

Yeah, girl! So, I just found an OB GYN when I got pregnant, like that's just what you do. Again, 'Tell me what I'm supposed to do. Tell me what I do when I'm pregnant.' Finally, in the third trimester, I was like, 'We should get [00:22:00] some birthing classes.'

So, I was very like lax about it. We did the Bradley method, which is one of the natural forms of childbirth education, which is an important piece of educating yourself on your choices.

I was like, 'Oh, this makes sense. My body's designed to do this. Oh, got it. And we can have it at home? What? Why are people talking about this?' I mean, in my world, people weren't talking about it. 

My fiancé was like, 'Oh, yeah,' definitely reflecting back and agreeing that that would be something that he would be on board with. So, that was really wonderful. I knew that there are many people out there who probably were looking at me sideways. I think there's a lot of messages in society. There's a lot of pressure women get, period. That's a whole podcast we can do on itself.

I'm just hearing so much support in your life from a young age with the soccer and then just having a lot of important people and community around you and surrounding you.

I truly feel that through pregnancy and childbirth, I felt like I [00:23:00] downloaded and got some of the secrets to thriving as a woman that we're not taught like surrender, trusting your body and receiving support. Allowing yourself to be held. 

I'm like, 'Oh, look, receptivity is a divine feminine quality.' So, I've leaned into it even more now where I happily receive on purpose as a practice, because I know how important it is to do so, and it's not a weakness. There's so often in conversations like just in the world, like society messaging around, 'Oh, I can do it on my own. I can do it. I can open my own door.' Independence, right? You know, 'I can make my own money. I can do this.' It's like, yeah, we, you can, you absolutely can.

But like, 'Why not let somebody open the door for you? Why not let somebody like make you a meal?' If somebody gives you a compliment, receive it and say, 'Thank you.' 

What does Uncharted look like for you today? 

I remember taking my very first personal development course when I graduated from UCLA, and I didn't know where I was gonna go. I ended up checking out [00:24:00] Sweden and ended up going to Vancouver.

And the biggest takeaway I got from that was choice. That you just make a choice, cause you can always make another choice. And you can always make another choice. That was really liberating and something I have taken with me always and will forever. 

I have a life disclaimer: I reserve the right to change my mind about anything, anywhere, anytime. 

That was very ingrained in me also in childbirth, because you have to listen to your body, and it won't make sense most of the time. Swaying your hips and then maybe for a moment you need to like put your leg like this or something or maybe do this. It's not logical. It's not charted. It's in the moment, intuitive, what's serving, and I live my life like that. 

As far as the work that I do in the world as a life coach, yoga teacher, empowerment priestess, as I call it, but essentially just supporting people specializing with women, of course, cause that's my deepest connection to the power of womanhood. Supporting women and navigating the human experience and [00:25:00] all the ups and downs that come with it, so that they can continually become the next great version of their true selves. 

I actually thought I would be a birth doula. When I had that transformative experience with a woman holding sacred space and seeing my power even in my toughest moment, I was like, 'I want to be that for women.' 

So, after having these two kids, and after the second child, I was like, 'I'm going to be a birth doula. I'm going to hold sacred space for women through their transformation in childbirth.' Logistically, it didn't work out, because my lifestyle was so nomadic with my husband. He was playing professional basketball. I realized I just loved holding empowering spaces for women.

First, it was yoga circles. And then, I started holding empowering book clubs where we would read these wonderful personal development books, and we'd hold each other accountable to do the activities in the book.

And then, I finally asked myself, 'Can I just do this for a living? Like hold women's circles.' And I found this wonderful organization called Sistership Circle who teach about that and support women into becoming Women's Circle facilitators, creating spaces [00:26:00] to belong, to be supported, not judged, championed in your soul and heart. 

I really learned that most of the time, all we need to heal and move forward is to be seen, heard, and celebrated exactly as you are. And that's the essence of who I be like out in the world now is just like complete non-judgment and seeing the gold in everybody. No matter if you're in your low moment, I still see your power, and in your high moments, I'm there celebrating with you too.

Actually, Jill, I've been to some of your circles. I was thinking of how, in a circle, you're creating that womb space, and when people step into it, they're witnessed by the community. It's the space you're creating for the rebirth, and I just wanted to point out that you really are a master at creating those spaces, because when I was in those circles, I saw the women able to reveal the next version or shed a skin. 

Yeah, thank you [00:27:00] so much. And I shared with you ladies before that I like to think of myself as a 'life doula.' It hasn't yet been the term that I have claimed on my business card yet. By the way, this whole world of putting words to the marketing game. I played soccer. That was a sport that I mastered. And, now, I'm like, 'How do you define it?' 'This is uncharted territory to me.' Sometimes I say 'transformational wing woman.' Life coach is more understandable, but life doula is truly what is happening. It's holding sacred space for whatever is needed.

I live my life with a womb-centered approach to my empowerment. One of the many frameworks that I operate from is what I call 'The Womb-In Method.'

Once I discovered the power of our womb space, I say to 'womb-in.' Focus in on that womb space, which represents so much, that second chakra, the creativity, the sexuality, which is life force, the nurturing part of you, the feminine intuition, the inner knowing, right? And, so, when we 'womb-in,' that's a way that we can thrive as a woman. 

When we flow through life, [00:28:00] and we're confronting the next chapter, the next rebirth is surrendering into that 'womb-in' wisdom.

I remember seeing your Instagram and admiring your courage to share who you were so authentically. Did you feel any fear of sharing so openly and honestly at that time, or did it feel like, 'That's just who I am and that's what I'm doing'? 

I have really, really found the gold in being able to be vulnerable. And I know you ladies are familiar with Brené Brown. 

She talks about vulnerability as the greatest strength, and it's the core of connection. And I love connection. Side note, I just looked up my life path number, cause I was like, 'Okay, you know, destiny and I'm a two life path, which, in essence, the purpose is connection.

And I'm like, 'Ah, just a mystical validation.' I was like, 'Keep going. Keep doing what you're doing, Jill, because connection is a deep part of your purpose.'

[00:29:00] Would you say that you are at the beginning of a rebirth, middle, or coming out of? 

I am definitely in a rebirth, for sure. There's been many rebirths within the last couple years, but I would say it was like an even bigger overall rebirth.

I was homeschooling my girls up until this last fall. That was uncharted, too. That was very free-thinking and rebellious, and that wasn't what most of society did. We ended up calling ourselves 'the rebel family,' which is funny that thinking for yourself feels rebellious.

It's like, uncharted is rebellious.

Yeah. That was another uncomfortable shift, because I had created the identity of 'homeschool mom.' So, even though that was rebellious at a time, it was my comfortable identity. And then, I had the homeschool community be like, 'Oh, I'm going to disappoint them.'That was an interesting grieving process, too, because I also grieved the perceived loss of an identity.

I did the same process, where I realized, 'Oh, the label might be different, but who I am and what I stand for is still the same,' which was [00:30:00] being a free-thinker, having adventures, writing our own rules. I wasn't putting the girls into school because somebody told me to. It was my inner knowing.

I'm in this new chapter of they're officially in school now. It's been my opportunity to rebirth and see where the next chapter takes me. I value growth so deeply that I really feel like I'll always be in these cycles.

So, as far as the seasons go, I think I'm in a springtime. I think maybe the last couple of years has been a winter. I went through a deep, dark night of the soul on many different levels, and it was so necessary. For anybody who's in a moment where they feel maybe lost or low or confused, all the emotions that are actually necessary and redirecting you to make some shifts, it can feel very dark and scary, but just know that on the other side of that is a deeper truth and a beautiful new chapter. 

And the seasons will come again. You're not going to hang out in spring all your life either. There's going to be this summer. 

What? [00:31:00] Can't you just stay there? 

 It's the circle of life, right? Everything's cyclical.

So, just trust in the journey that it will circle around. 

Are there any other golden nuggets you want us to take away from what we talked about today? 

I just want to give the whole world a hug. It's so simple, but just the enoughness. That you're so enough, and you have everything resourced inside of you. That is the premise of my messages, I guess, is that you're so enough. You're so beautiful. 

I told you that I was very inhibited in my voice, and I still, like I said, have more room to grow there, but I didn't like having conversations when I was younger. And here I am, loving this with you guys. This is my favorite thing in the world, because it's connection, right? 

Leading into that emergence of me being able to be in my voice was I needed this insight. And what I realized was, 'Everybody has inside of them a treasure [00:32:00] box, and it just takes a question to open up that treasure box.' So, just know that, in all the listeners, you have treasure inside of you.

And that's what I see. And that's what I'd love to champion everybody to access and share with the world, because if we all just share our treasures, the world would be such an amplified, loving place. 

Is there anything else you'd love to share with our listeners? 

Listen to your body. Enjoy the journey. Follow your bliss. Ask for help. Believe in yourself. I mean, it's like, self-trust, self-trust, self-trust. It's just been such a beautiful listening to what's next. It's been a lot of fun, and I look forward to whatever the next adventures are gonna be. But always, always rebirthing. Always transforming. Just keep going. 

This is extraordinary what you're doing and creating. And to be even just a blip in the process is such an honor. 

We're so thankful you're here and thank you for sharing your story. [00:33:00]

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